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- At 7:32pm on May 11, 2009,
Discovery Fuel said…
- Tues Wed Thurs this week .. pick a time (I'm in CA) and we'll skype (skype; vicdesotelle)
- At 10:41am on May 10, 2009,
Discovery Fuel said…
- Yes Chris. I'm game. Let's skype (not this week) but next week and talk about it. To give it focus, I'm thinking it might fit best under O2 Sustainable Designers Network - I think if you request it there that you can get some folks to team up with you??, Note it is a now a subgroup now of ChangingNormal.com under Domain 7
My skype name is: vicdesotelle
Let's talk soon.
- At 8:40pm on March 11, 2009,
Discovery Fuel said…
- Hey Chris,
Does your sustainable technology wiki deal with the emergence of new products coming online? If yes, would you promote here? If not, let's start something. Here's a simple example:
http://www.gizmag.com/honda-cg150-titan-mix-worlds-first-flex-fuel-motorcycle/11210/
- At 3:57pm on November 24, 2008,
Discovery Fuel said…
- Yes Estia,
Check out Chris Watkins and his appropriate tech site found at http://discoveryfuel.ning.com/profile/ChrisWatkins. Once you’re at his site, search on ‘textiles’. Send him an email too, he probably has other resources.
Also I found these related sites via google:
http://discoveryfuel.ning.com/profile/ChrisWatkins
http://www.wiserearth.org/resource/search?q=textiles&commit=Search
http://www.wiserearth.org/resource/search?q=glass&commit=Search
http://www.smartasn.org/mission.html
http://www.londondesignfestival.com/events/view-event.aspx?id=966
http://www.aiasdrg.org/sdrg.aspx
http://lainie.typepad.com/redthread/2008/03/sustainable-tex.html
http://www.wasteonline.org.uk/resources/InformationSheets/Textiles.htm
http://new.sustainablefurnishings.org/content/resource-list
http://www.ecolect.net/articles
Best, Vic
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On 11/24/08 10:14 AM, "Estia Zafeiraki" wrote:
I would like to ask if any of you can assist me in finding a guide or website for sustainable material, especially glass and textiles.
thank you
estia zafeiraki
www.estiaz.com

To: o2mailinglist@yahoogroups.com; vicdesotelle@gmail.com
From: brensculpt@yahoo.com.au
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:35:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [o2mailinglist] O2's new guidelines - considering an Ecology of Design
That sounds like the most sensible suggestion I've heard in this entire rambling debate that has been going on ! Nice one Vic. I joined O2 for the hard stuff and for the thoughts process, so PSD and SSD sound like great posting headliners to me.
--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Vic Desotelle wrote:
From: Vic Desotelle
Subject: [o2mailinglist] O2's new guidelines - considering an Ecology of Design
To: "O2mailinglist@Yahoogroups. Com"
Received: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 1:14 PM
³Sustainable Design² is systemic by its own nature, so leaving philosophy
outside of our design conversations is (I respectfully propose) not a
healthy solution. It is philosophy that generates next-generation
breakthroughs in innovation. Also, as designers, we are awakening to an
³Ecology of Design², which makes the practical and philosophical design
discussions very important. We are entering a time when they are becoming
more and more integrated with each other. A time when we must review and
change how we create ourselves and our surroundings differently. This (I
believe) can only occur by stepping back and looking at a far bigger picture
before we bring shape to our forms. As Bucky Fuller once said when asked
about his design process, he said, ³I always start with the Universe².
Suggestion: So maybe we can title our subject lines with two types of emails
...
> 1- Product Sustainable Design (PSD), which deals with material, process, and
> efficiency issues that come with making physical Œstuff¹ and its impact on the
> environment.
>>
> 2- Social Sustainable Design (SSD), which deals with systemic implications
> that go beyond the product itself into societal impact and cultural re-design
> implications.
Any feedback on this suggestion??
Vic Desotelle :)
http://DiscoveryFue l.ning.com
On 11/17/08 12:37 PM, "o2mailinglist@ yahoogroups. com"
wrote:
> o2 is an organisation that promotes eco-design and sustainable design
> internationally.
>
>
> Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:31 pm (PST)
>
> Vic,
>
> While I am all for an "information rich" society, and continuous learning
> that lets us be more creative and question our old assumptions, the main
> learning solutions seem to be to continue a relentless overload of new
> learning tasks. I find that unmanageable, and one of the sharp edges of
> sustainability. Sustainability can't be just finding ever more
> complicated solutions.
>
> To change direction one certainly needs some sort of vision of where you're
> headed, and changing directions is bound to be take some new kinds of
> learning. Don't we need to watch out for the appeal of just heading up
> some ever steeper slope?
>
> Phil Henshaw
>
> From: o2mailinglist@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:o2mailinglist@ yahoogroups. com
> ]
> On Behalf Of Vic Desotelle
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:26 PM
> To: o2mailinglist@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [o2mailinglist] Features of next learning system impacts
> sustainable design processes
>
> The assumptions we have about learning directly impact how sustainable
> design practices will move forward. This is a must read. I'd love to
> get your feedback.
>
> http://discoveryfue l.ning.com/ group/domain10le arningandeducati on/forum/ topic
> s/features-of- the-next- learning
>
> Vic Desotelle
> http://DiscoveryFue l.com
>
> __.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Dear o2's
>
> There have been some valuable ideas, opinions and suggestions expressed over
> the past
> few days regarding the role/function/ objectives of the o2 list, so now seems
> an ideal
> moment for some feedback - a bit of background and some planned solutions -
> from the
> o2 Global Network Foundation - owner of the o2 website and mailing list
> (sorry-this
> might be a bit long-winded, but I hope you can bear with us...). For those
> who aren't
> aware, the o2 list was started in 1997 with 60 people and now has over 1650
> members.
> Yes, there have been some "unsubscriptions" over the past week or so, but
> new
> membership requests come in daily, so the list continues to grow.
>
> Some background:
> As some members have communicated, the list was initially established to
> provide o2
> Global Network members (predominantly designers, people interested in design
> or people
> in related fields) with a means of exchanging information SPECIFICALLY
> related to
> sustainable design. The format of most posts was short and concise: a design
> or material-
> related question, an announcement about an upcoming event, a recommendation
> of a new
> source (book, link, etc.).
>
> Today:
> Naturally, as the membership grows and diversifies, so do the needs and
> expectations of
> the members themselves. And, while many members have done remarkably well in
>
> establishing solid businesses and reputations in green/ sustainable design,
> most of the
> questions and challenges (philosophical, societal, etc.) remain the same,
> whether one is
> still a student or has an independent design firm, and finding answers to
> these questions,
> challenging our way of viewing the problems, is an essential part of the
> design process.
> We therefore recognize the importance in discussing these more open-ended
> questions
> and we'd like to find a way to make this possible for those who are
> interested. For some
> time we've discussed and are now pursuing the possibility of setting up
> forums for more
> in-depth discussion on the website. We'll keep you updated on that.
>
> Guidelines for posting:
> Considering that most everyone suffers from email overload, it would benefit
> all if posts to
> the list were kept SHORT and CONCISE with the SUBJECT CLEARLY STATED in the
> message
> line.
>
> A forum for longer discussions:
> More OPEN-ENDED/PHILOSOP HICAL questions can also be posted and, when there
> is a
> response:
> 1) we ask that the member who initiated the topic inform the list that the
> discussion is
> being continued off-list and anyone interested in joining in or simply
> following the
> progress can do so by sending an email to the initiator - they'll then be
> added to the
> addressees.
> 2) once the topic reaches some sort of conclusion/solution , a summary
> document should
> be made by the initiator or one of the participants which can then be
> uploaded to the
> website at o2 SOURCES - TOOLS, and may, in some cases provide valuable
> material for the
> Wikis. More info to follow on how to get the summaries to the website.
>
> Wikis:
> The o2 list continues to be a valuable resource for people making their
> first steps in
> sustainable design, yet the basic "sustainability 101" type questions can
> also clog up in-
> boxes. Setting up Wikis to cover the main topics/themes/ issues should
> provide a solution.
>
> Please reply to this post with your feedback. We can continue it off-list if
> necessary.
>
> Thanks for you input!
> The O2 Global Network Foundation
> Martha Kellerhals, Adital Ela, Ernst-Jan van Hattum
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- At 10:08pm on November 15, 2008,
Discovery Fuel said…
- what do you think best way would be to add your appropriate technology site ? .. looks very interesting and right up this site's alley - vic, discoveryfuel.com
- At 10:06pm on November 15, 2008,
Discovery Fuel said…
- way cool Chris; looking forward to learning more from you; spread the word; let's connect one on one soon - vic
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A word on white elephants, expectations, and changing normal.
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Introducing the new silo .... same as the old one :/
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Togther let us "PAINT PARADISE, THEN GO IN"
Ahhh; dream land ...
Do you really know what Alice in Wonderland is all about? ??
Alice has the ability to step through mirrors ...
She is our own reflection,
Of what WE can do.
She is US.
She is our own expression,
Of love, truth, and beauty.
She symbolizes our own Spirit,
Impressed int… Continue
Posted by Discovery Fuel on April 2, 2009 at 9:00pm
To Change Normal - Attempt To Know Your Place In The Nest
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Challenges of Community and Collaboration
Being an aficionado for collaboration, so much so that I've created a job for me being a Collaboration Ecologist, recently more often than not I've come to inquire into the question, "If, as seems to be the case, many if not most people and organisations in the world seek coll… Continue
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During this renewed era of 'once upon a time',
As we realize a collectively conscious global culture.
---
"Tell me about the Dragons." (says Andrew)
---
Vic says ...
"Ahhh yes: The Dragons.
They will begin to appear in the sky;
Fireballs of hell will be one's first impression -
An explosion of Universal vomit upon Earth… Continue
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Intro Section I
CHAPTER #1 -- THE FOUNDATION
For some 2000 years or more civilization has been ruled by a social paradigm on which all aspects of the EuroAmerican cultures are been based -- the “dominator paradigm.” In the past 2 two decades a new social paradigm has been emerging that could have the most, deep, fundamental impact on human civilization since humanids first came down from the trees. The old paradigm placed humans in a purposeful universe created by some super normal power for t… Continue
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Posted by Discovery Fuel on December 4, 2008 at 11:30am — 4 Comments
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Posted by Discovery Fuel on January 26, 2009 at 5:00pm
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